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Crude wipes out its October war premium before Trump meets Qatar's mediator

Over the weekend Trump said renewed strikes on Iran are highly unlikely if talks progress, and Iraq said it reached understandings with Washington to ship oil through Hormuz. As of 11:40 AM ET crude is down about 3.1% and Brent-linked oil about 4.3%, while airline stocks are up about 4.3%.

By the mrkts desk · Mon, Nov 9 · 11:43 AM ET · 3 min readEuphoric
IN SHORT
  • Trump said Sunday that renewed strikes on Iran are highly unlikely if talks progress, Iraq said it reached understandings with the US to export oil through Hormuz, and Trump meets Qatar's prime minister, the main mediator, at 12 PM ET Monday.
  • As of 11:40 AM ET, crude is down about 3.1% and Brent-linked oil about 4.3% from Friday's close, while airline stocks are up about 4.3% and defense stocks about 3.9% on a broad rally that has the S&P proxy up about 2.0%.
  • Crude is back below its Oct 5 close, so its whole October climb is gone. The noon meeting is the next test, and October CPI on Tuesday at 8:30 AM ET is the next read on whether cheaper oil shows up in inflation.

Key numbers

USO
−3.07%
Crude, vs Fri close · 11:39 AM ET
BNO
−4.29%
Brent-linked oil · 11:40 AM ET
JETS
+4.33%
Airline stocks · 11:40 AM ET
ITA
+3.92%
Defense stocks · 11:40 AM ET
GLD
+1.24%
Gold · 11:40 AM ET
QAT
+1.93%
Qatari stocks · 11:37 AM ET
USO SINCE OCT 5
−0.10%
Was +17.25% at the Oct 30 close
NEXT DATE
Nov 9
Trump meets Qatar's PM, 12 PM ET

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The weekend sent two signals from the Strait of Hormuz at once. Both Iran and the US said ships were hit in or near the strait, with Iran's navy saying tankers struck mines and caught fire east of Hormuz, and the UAE's National Guard saying it rescued 22 people from a burning cargo ship in the Gulf of Oman. At the same time, the diplomatic tone softened. President Trump said Sunday that renewed strikes on Iran are highly unlikely if talks over its nuclear program and reopening the strait make progress, while warning he could still strike. Iraq's foreign minister said Baghdad has reached understandings with the US to let its oil exports pass through Hormuz on a lane close to Oman. The White House said Trump meets Qatar's prime minister, the key mediator between the US and Iran, on Monday, and wires report no deal is seen as imminent.

Why markets care

Hormuz is the main exit for Gulf oil, and both sides have blockaded it during the war, so any sign that barrels can move again goes straight into the price of crude. Iraq's understanding is the first concrete case: a lane for one large producer adds supply even without a broader deal. Cheaper oil lowers fuel costs, which is why airline stocks move opposite to crude, and it eases the inflation worry a day before October CPI. Energy stocks would usually fall with crude, but they are up about 0.9% as the whole market rallies, with the S&P proxy up about 2.0% and the vol proxy down about 9.8%.

What's priced in

Most of the good news already is. As of 11:40 AM ET, crude is at about 143.85, just under its Oct 5 close of 143.99, so the October climb, which peaked at about +17.7% on Oct 23, is fully gone, and crude is down about 14.8% from its Oct 30 close. Brent-linked oil is about 3.1% below its Oct 5 level. Over the same stretch airline stocks are up about 7.4% and Qatari stocks about 9.7%. Tanker stocks are about flat today. Not everything reads as peace: gold is up about 1.2% and defense stocks about 3.9%, though both are rising with a broad rally. With the war premium out of crude, a signed deal has less left to take out than it did a week ago, while a breakdown in talks or more attacks on ships would have room to put some of it back.

Line chart of percent change since the Oct 5 close: crude peaked near +17.7% on Oct 23 and was +17.3% at the Oct 30 close, then fell to −0.1% as of about 11:40 AM ET Nov 9; Brent-linked oil is −3.1%, airline stocks +7.4% and Qatari stocks +9.7%.Line chart of percent change since the Oct 5 close: crude peaked near +17.7% on Oct 23 and was +17.3% at the Oct 30 close, then fell to −0.1% as of about 11:40 AM ET Nov 9; Brent-linked oil is −3.1%, airline stocks +7.4% and Qatari stocks +9.7%.
Crude is back where it started October, while airlines and Qatari stocks sit at the highs of the stretch. · Daily closes Oct 5–Nov 6 and quotes at about 11:40 AM ET Nov 9

What X is saying

Accounts report Brent futures extended their slide to about 5% Monday morning. Posts citing an Israeli newspaper say the US and Iran are weighing a deal that would reopen the strait in exchange for releasing about $8 billion in frozen Iranian funds, and that Iran has dropped its demand to collect transit fees from ships. A senior Qatari official denied the Israeli media reports on the specifics and said negotiations are still underway. Iran also says no unauthorized vessels crossed the strait overnight after navigation aids were destroyed. These are claims and views from posts, not confirmed facts.

What to watch

The first test is Trump's meeting with Qatar's prime minister at 12 PM ET Monday; any word on the Iranian proposal or a next round of talks would move crude first. More reports of ships hit near Hormuz are the other tell, along with whether Iraq's exports keep flowing. On the calendar, October CPI lands Tuesday at 8:30 AM ET, the first big inflation read since crude gave back its October run, and producer prices follow Friday at 8:30 AM ET.

NARRATIVE WATCH
  • Played outOil's Middle East runCrude is down about 3.1% Monday to about 143.85, just below its Oct 5 close of 143.99, so the October run is fully reversed and the story stays played out.
SCENARIOS
Pumping
If the Qatar meeting produces a framework to reopen Hormuz…
Crude slips further below its early-October level, airlines extend their gains and energy lags.
Grinding
If talks continue with no deal and no new attacks…
Oil drifts and the market's attention moves to Tuesday's CPI.
Choppy
If more tankers are hit and the talks stall…
Crude wins back part of its slide and airlines give up some of Monday's gain.
Rattled
If the talks break down and strikes resume…
Crude rebuilds part of its war premium, havens bid and the vol proxy reverses Monday's drop.
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  • Economic calendar, pulled Nov 9 11:45 AM ET: CPI Nov 10 8:30 AM ET; jobless claims Nov 12 8:30 AM ET; PPI Nov 13 8:30 AM ET; no talks dates listed
  • Trump meeting with Qatar's prime minister Monday Nov 9, 12 PM ET, per the White House (x sources below)
  • Broker quotes, last trades 11:37–11:40 AM ET Nov 9 vs Nov 6 close: USO 143.85 vs 148.41 (−3.07%), BNO 59.55 vs 62.22 (−4.29%), JETS 29.965 vs 28.72 (+4.33%), ITA 71.6865 vs 68.98 (+3.92%), GLD 377.14 vs 372.52 (+1.24%), QAT 17.94 vs 17.60 (+1.93%), XLE 62.165 vs 61.62 (+0.88%), SPY 749.94 vs 735.29 (+1.99%), VXX 19.805 vs 21.95 (−9.77%), UUP 29.025 vs 29.13 (−0.36%), TLT 81.965 vs 81.92 (+0.05%), FRO 45.375 vs 45.42 (−0.10%), STNG 80.70 vs 80.76 (−0.07%)
  • Broker daily closes: USO Oct 5 143.99, high close 169.53 Oct 23 (+17.74%), Oct 30 168.83 (+17.25%); BNO Oct 5 61.45; JETS Oct 5 27.89; QAT Oct 5 16.35
  • Since Oct 5 close to about 11:40 AM ET Nov 9: USO −0.10%, BNO −3.09%, JETS +7.44%, QAT +9.72%; USO vs Oct 30 close −14.79%
  • Chart: same daily closes Oct 5–Nov 6 plus Nov 9 quotes
  • Narrative oil-climb endsIf: crude proxy back below 150 (marked played out Nov 4)
  • Live hero mood Euphoric (9:55 AM ET refresh)
  • @Reuters — “President Trump said he was highly unlikely to order fresh attacks on Iran as long as talks to end the conflict progress, even as both countries reported that shipping had been hit in or near the Strait of Hormuz”
  • @CNBC — “Trump says renewed Iran strikes ‘highly unlikely’ if talks progress but warns he could still strike”
  • @AJEnglish — “US President Donald Trump has said renewed strikes on Iran are “highly unlikely” if there is progress in negotiations with Iran over its nuclear programme and the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz.”
  • @Reuters — “Iraq has reached understandings with US to allow oil exports through Hormuz, minister says”
  • @DeItaone — “IRAQ HAS REACHED UNDERSTANDINGS WITH US TO ALLOW OIL EXPORTS THROUGH STRAIT OF HORMUZ VIA SHIPPING LANE CLOSE TO OMAN, EXPORT OPERATIONS REMAIN ONGOING - REPORT CITING IRAQI FOREIGN MINISTER”
  • @AJEnglish — “Oil exports through the Strait of Hormuz have resumed following understandings reached with the US and Iran, Iraq’s FM Fuad Hussein tells Al Jazeera.”
  • @AJEnglish — “An oil tanker has caught fire after hitting a naval mine east of the Strait of Hormuz, according to Iranian media citing Iran’s navy.”
  • @AJEnglish — “BREAKING: The United Arab Emirates' National Guard says it rescued 22 people from a burning cargo ship in the Gulf of Oman, after Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) said two oil tankers hit mines near the Strait of Hormuz.”
  • @FirstSquawk — “PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL MEET MONDAY WITH THE PRIME MINISTER OF QATAR, WHO IS THE KEY MEDIATOR BETWEEN THE U.S. AND IRAN, THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS”
  • @FirstSquawk — “TRUMP TO MEET QATAR PM AT 12PM ET”
  • @Reuters — “Trump to meet Iran war mediator Qatar, no imminent deal seen to end the war”
  • @FirstSquawk — “BRENT CRUDE OIL EXTENDS DECLINE TO 5%”
  • @DeItaone — “US AND IRAN CONSIDER $8 BILLION DEAL TO REOPEN STRAIT OF HORMUZ”
  • @FirstSquawk — “IRAN HAS APPARENTLY DROPPED ITS DEMAND TO CONTROL THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ AND COLLECT TRANSIT FEES FROM VESSELS PASSING THROUGH THE STRATEGIC WATERWAY – ISRAEL HAYOM”
  • @AJEnglish — “A senior official from Qatar has told Al Jazeera negotiations to end the US-Israeli war on Iran are still underway and denied circulating Israeli media reports outlining specifics of the talks.”
  • @Reuters — “Iran says no unauthorised vessels transited Strait of Hormuz overnight after navigation aids destroyed”
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